"Most men do nothing to deserve what the gods throw their way."
week four of the locke lamora read-along! one week to go! our email thread is exceptionally short this week, partly because i worked a lot and only finished the reading this morning, partly because this is a very in-between section in which i mostly frown a lot, and partly because i started reading another book about thieves who i have rather recklessly fallen in love with. surely mistborn will end happily for all those involved though!
um, anyway! second to last post about a book most of you have never read! very little flailing and keysmashing this week. on a related note, sabetha doesn’t show up in this week’s reading at all. heh.
1. In the chapter “A Curious Tale for Countess Amberglass” we learn of the tradition of the night tea in Camorr. I found that not so much fantastical as realistic – how about you?
i love the night tea! i also absolutely love dona vorchenza and that tea sounded SO GOOD, om nom nom. also that cake. but seriously- dona vorchenza. WHAT A BADASS. i still have a lot of residual anger from being told that the ladies in these books are one-note, because what! this lady is the duke’s SPYMASTER! she has a wicked sense of humor, is a bit of a mother hen for all of the younger donas, and is BRILLIANT. i am more than a little bit in love with her.
2. When Jean meets with what will become the Wicked Sisters for the first time, the meeting is described very much like how people feel when they find their true work or home. Agree? Disagree? Some of both?
3. Salt devils. Bug. Jean. The description is intense. Do you find that description a help in visualizing the scene? Do you find yourself wishing the description was occasionally – well – a little less descriptive?
the only times i want less description in this book is the salt devils. and also the cask of horse piss. STILL GAGGING. but actually, i am TERRIBLE at visualizing things but i can picture that scene fairly well. also boys :(
4. This section has so much action in it, it’s hard to find a place to pause. But…but.. oh, Locke. Oh, Jean. On their return to the House of Perelandro, their world is turned upside down. Did you see it coming?
well, fifth reread, so yes. except ashley promised me it would be different this time and then it wasn’t :(
but, god, i just can’t. not only did they lose their family, they lost their HOME and their livelyhood and all of their mementos of father chains and sabetha and their brothers. locke is scary when he goes cold, and those bastards should be afraid.
5. Tavrin Callas’s service to the House of Aza Guilla is recalled at an opportune moment, and may have something to do with saving a life or three. Do you believe Chains knew what he set in motion? Why or why not?
i don’t think he ever saw this coming, but i DO think he wanted them to be prepared for all eventualities. but also i love how kind of insane the various religions are, and how everyone just rolls with it.
i also like the glimpses we get of jean working on his own. a lot of the book is spent showing us how brilliant locke is, so it’s good that we see that jean can and does hold his own.
6. As Locke and Jean prepare for Capa Raza, Dona Vorchenza’s remark that the Thorn of Camorr has never been violent – only greedy and resorting to trickery – comes to mind again. Will this pattern continue?
i mean, neal caffrey is non-violent and dislikes weapons, but when you harm his family, he’ll steal a gun and come at you too. and as we learned, camorri are big believers in revenge, and locke is camorri in his SOUL. what i’m saying is- i’m sure this will end well for everyone involved!
7. Does Locke Lamora or the Thorn of Camorr enter Meraggio’s Countinghouse that day? Is there a difference?
locke enters, but the thorn comes out. the difference is that locke has a good, slightly risky but rather ordinary scheme, and the thorn sees the opportunity for a much cheekier plot and takes it. locke asks the crooked warden for help, and the thorn saysfuck you, i’ve got this.
hah, i actually tried to buy name of the wind last week but i didn’t like the size of the copy they had so i bought mistborn instead and requested name of the wind from the library. SO PREPARE THOSE FEELINGS.
MISTBORN. AND NAME OF THE WIND?
*has a heart attack*
y’all rec it, i (probably) read it! (plus my job is super-weird and often dreadfully dull, so like, this week, i will spend over 30 hours “working” and reading books. fortunately my service desk at this show faces a wall so people couldn’t see all the faces i was making at clockwork prince today. willllllllllllll, why do you keep breaking my heart?)
do you ever cry because you get feelings for villain characters even though you should hate them but you just can’t control it because you love them so much and want to wrap them in your arms and protect them from whatever made them so villainous
on why you should not name your computer after a trickster god. (or: please tell me one of you knows how to fix this.)
me: ASHLEY i am having a computer issue and i don’t even know how to google for help
ashley: o.o hahaha oh man kyprioth keep being awesome <.<
me: sometimes (often) when i am typing (mostly in gmail/gchat) i will be going along all happily and then i will need to backspace something and then my cursor will end up in a NEW RANDOM PLACE KYPRIOTH IT’S NOT FUNNY YOU ARE MAKING IT HARD TO EXPRESS MY FEELINGS this is probably payback for shipping him with george which, whatever dude, you two have a lot of sexual tension
me: SMOLDERING god, has anyone written me that fic yet? (also now that i am WATCHING for it i can’t make it happen) (kyprioth is a dick) (and my desktop was named after the evil russian martian computer) (so) (you know) (HIGH STANDARDS)
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"I'm only doing this because I've always wanted to see Bug get eaten by an Eldren ghost."
because i know you are all fascinated by what obsessed weirdos ashley and i are, this week’s thread had almost 80 emails, including 22 frowny faces, a debate on whether we should keep reading (and who has to read republic of thievesfirst in order to check it for ~feelings), and a plan to make scott lynch love us so he stops breaking our hearts. uh, spoilers, but the feelings train is about to pull out of the station. ALL ABOOOOOOARD!
1. This section is where we finally get to sneak a peek at the magic in The Gentleman Bastards books. From what we read, what are your initial impressions of the magic Lynch is using? Is there any way that Locke and Company would be able to get around the Bondsmage’s powers?
the magic is so interesting, especially when we find out more about it later. it’s very old school, and fits so well in this world where it seems like it almost shouldn’t fit at all.
2. Not a question, but an area for rampant speculation: If you want to take a stab at who you think the Grey King might be, feel free to do it here.
hah, okay, listerally the only thing i really remember from my first reading is my thoughts on who the grey king was. namely, i thought it was sabetha, or someone sabetha was working with. (i didn’t realize it was the first book in a series, and for a stand-alone to mention a missing character this much usually meant a twist where they were evil.)
2.5 (since 2 wasn’t really a question) Anyone see the Nazca thing coming? Anyone? Do you think there are more crazy turns like this in store for the book? Would you like to speculate about them here? (yes, yes you would)
GAH, NAZCA. so so sad about nazca. also the cask of horse piss makes me gag every single time i read about it, egh.
3. When Locke says “Nice bird, arsehole,” I lose it. EVERY TIME. And not just because I have the UK version of the book and the word arsehole is funnier than asshole. Have there been any other places in the books so far where you found yourself laughing out loud, or giggling like a crazy person on the subway?
OH GOD I LOVE THAT LINE. i love how much characterization scott packs into three words, and i love what a cocky little shit locke is. there’s a lot in this book that makes me laugh out loud (really all the banter between the boys, but especially calo and galdo) and/or grin like an idiot. i really do have practically half this book highlighted. my favorite favorite favorite scene in the whole book is when they are getting ready to head to the echo hole and doing their ritual thing and just bantering with each other. <3booooooys<3
4. By the end of this reading section, have your opinions changed about how clever the Bastards are? Do you still feel like they’re “cleverer than all the rest?” Or have they been decidedly outplayed by the Grey King and his Bondsmage?
nope! still more clever. i don’t think they’ve been outplayed. outclassed or outfinessed, maybe, but you have to remember that the gray king and the falconer have both a headstart and a MASSIVE advantage, and also that we’re only halfway done.
5. I imagine that you’ve probably read ahead, since this was a huge cliffhanger of an ending for the “present” storyline, but I’ll ask this anyway: Where do you see the story going from here, now that the Grey King is thought to be dead?
i stopped where we were supposed to, because as a locke lamora veteran i know that i do not want to rush into the rest of this book. i always go really fast basically until locke gets to the echo hole, and then have to spend a lot of time frowning, which slows down the rest of the book.
6. What do you think of the characters Scott Lynch has given us so far? Are they believable? Real? Fleshed out? If not, what are they lacking?
I LOVE THEM ALL SO MUCH :/ i cannot praise scott enough, because his characterization and world-building and plot and slang and everything else is all just so fucking good. all of the characters- even the ones we’ve only seen a bit of, even the ones who are made up by other characters- feel so three-dimensional. it’s so easy to imagine everyone still living their lives in the background while the boys are living theirs for us to see.
7. Now that you’ve seen how clever Chains is about his “apprenticeships,” why do you think he’s doing all of this? Does he have an endgame in sight? Is there a goal he wants them to achieve, or is it something more emotional like revenge?
i don’t think chains really has an endgame beyond chaos, mostly. or well, we’ll find out more about the code of the thirteenth, and i suppose is endgame is partly about enforcing that. but it’s also just about having fun and being overlooked and, you know, stealing shit.
i also really enjoy seeing the boys meet jean for the first time, and locke’s acceptence of jean as family. and also the silly bickering between all of them. i also really like that father chains flatly acknowledges their strengths and teaches them not to be ashamed of their weaknesses.
idk writing this up is cutting into my naptime and also my laptop is driving me fucking crazy, WHICH IS WHY YOU NEVER NAME YOUR COMPUTER AFTER A TRICKSTER GOD I GUESS. ugh, poor life choices, inc.
i know one of you responded to my locke lamora post last saturday and i MEANT to send you a message with Important Questions but now tumblr won't show me who reblogged it and it is driving me craaaazy cos i can't find it on the blog of the person i thought it was.
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